No actually I had a great deal on them, Im not complaining at all just wanted some feedback on it. I understand Greddy has a very reliable, well known name so I know I won't be disappointed if not as much. I got 2.5 inch downpipes as well with testpipes so I should be ok. Just wanted some valuable input from you guys to rest easy my mind better and so far it looks good :) Any dramatic or noticeable increase in torque? If they are quiet I like that I don't like the whole rice burner sound anyway lol